Comments on: Education Profiteers Gather In New York To Cheer Privatization Of American Schools

By: Notocharter

Notocharter — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:17:00 +0000

The Stanford study shows only 17 percent of charter schools do better than public.

See Paragraph 2 in Link below

http://credo.stanford.edu/reports/National_Release.pdf

By: Tjshea

Tjshea — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:20:00 +0000

Abigail -& CatKin – The statistics used in any study you omit to cite suffer from a comparison of apples and oranges. A study done in Ohio cites negligible gains while one undertaken in Kansas shows strong gains. . And yes there is a connection between success rates and additional(private funding) as shown in the Harlem School project. For some reason you misread my post as backing charter schools . I don’t . Mostly because I don’t believe educational reform starts with a profit motive. The discussion of who and what as education serves is consistently by passed. That said I believe there is a push by the financial sector to find any money stream including education. I am deeply cynical of outside ,private funding for charter schools as it represents to me not altruism on the donors part but a way to launch a better PR program.

By: Abigail00

Abigail00 — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:06:00 +0000

Tjshyea….. you need to do some serious research. Academic studies have repeatedly shown that charter schools have underperformed our regular public schools. Further, just as our prison system became privatized and then more expensive, costs for charter schools have krept up—see Michigan for example. The charter schools that have excelled are typically ones where public funds plus private funds have allowed for significantly higher expenditures and an increase in programs, including health and food.

By: CatKinNY

CatKinNY — Wed, 08 Aug 2012 03:37:00 +0000

Actually, the success rate of charters is slightly below that of conventional public schools, and when you consider that they get to pick who they take (and everyone they take is the child of a parent motivated enough to apply), we end up paying the same for the delivery of a vastly inferior product, since the public school has to take all the kids the charter rejects. The cost savings incurred by paying less to teachers is not passed on to taxpayers, but goes towards the multimillion dollar salary of the CEO who runs the company and the dividends paid to investors.

When you pay a living wage and benefits to a bunch of teachers, far more of it gets recycled back into the economy in the purchase of food, clothes, furniture, refrigerators, etc, than if you knock them out of the middle class and into the lower middle class so you can elevate a few individuals from the top 2% into the top .05%. While it’s great for those elevated, it’s bad for everybody else, and since it’s bad for students, lets just move on. But can we finally admit that privatizing things, of neccessity, involves making a profit, and that may not be the best way to spend tax dollars?

By: Tjshea

Tjshea — Wed, 08 Aug 2012 02:00:00 +0000

Charter schools are publicly funded, and since the success level is even with or slightly above regular public schools the major difference seems to be what are the costs to poorly educate students. Cost per student can be kept down if teacher unions can be sidestepped. Pay less for failure seems to be the charter schools business model..

By: Phil Hanson

Phil Hanson — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 18:36:00 +0000

A tax deduction is just another way of subsidizing them with other taxpayers’ money. If people want privatized education, they should pay for it privately on their own dime. That said, privatization of the things people need always produces inferior goods or services at higher cost.

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By: Really_seriously_now

Really_seriously_now — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 15:17:00 +0000

I’m all for privatizations as long as they don’t expect the Governmnet to fund them with our tax money. I don’t like paying my taxes to support public serices to go to people/corporations to make them rich. Just another scheme. Our money should be going to fix our education system and keep these Government tit suckers out of it. You want to get into the education system open a private school and let people pay for it out of pocket and then allow them to deduct the tuition from their taxes.